The Top “Million Dollar Listing” Fallacies

I want to follow up on Monday’s blog post about the TV series “Million Dollar Listing” and provide some more context, specifically as to how the show differs from reality.

And ironically, I don’t mean reality, as in “reality television,” but rather the reality that makes reality-television, unreal.  Wow, that’s a mouthful…

In Monday’s blog, I looked at how the MDL franchise has impacted the Toronto real estate industry, and I alluded to a few of the traits or attitudes that young agents take from the show, and bring to the business.  So now let me outline the top aspects of MDL that simply do not exist in real life…

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My father was a criminal lawyer; a trial lawyer, for the entirety of his career, but I think I only watched him argue in court maybe twice when I was a kid.

We did, however, watch a LOT of “Law & Order” in the 1990’s, and this was before all the spin-offs came about, and before every single network drama show was about crime in some way.

Every Wednesday night at 9:00pm, from basically the seventh grade through the end of high school, we would watch Law & Order, or at least remember to tape it on VHS cassette to watch later…

Even though my father was an active lawyer, and we were watching a dramatization of his daily occupation, he never provided us with unsolicited commentary.  I would have to ask him, “Dad, does that happen in real life?”  Or “Do you think that evidence would be excluded?”

Only then would he tell me what he thought, and more often than not, it was a resounding “No.”

I learned a lot from my father, but one thing I did not learn was to let others enjoy watching the show, without pointing out the fallacies.

Fast-forward to today, and I absolutely, positively can not watch any show about real estate with my wife.

I’m coming up on three years of marriage, and I have to say, this thing is working pretty damn well.

I mean, if the media, film, novels, and supermarket magazines taught me anything growing up, it’s that marriage is impossible, so don’t bother trying.

But I learned very early on that my wife does not enjoy me talking through an entire episode of one of her real estate shows; pointing out the inconsistencies, informing her of the varying degrees of reality, or simply saying “this whole thing is ridiculous.”

In order to attempt to further and strengthen our relationship, it was decided years ago that I would not be in the room while she watched Million Dollar Listing, or House Hunters, or Property Virgins, or Holmes on Homes, or any of the fifty-seven shows about real estate that air on a weekly basis.

If I come home early enough to see her, and she’s watching one of these shows, she turns it off.

If I’m working on my laptop on a weekend and she wants to watch one of these shows, she gives me a look, and I go into the den.

She’s told me on many occasions, “I don’t care if this whole thing is fake; I want to watch it in peace.”

And THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is the sign of a strong marriage!

So with that dynamite lead-in out of the way, let me shed some light on the top ten fallacies of the show “Million Dollar Listing,” or at least compare and contrast their “reality” on television, and what we do in reality in the Toronto market.

1) We don’t negotiate verbally.

This sure makes for great television, but not in a million years would you see every single agent, on every single transaction, negotiating verbally.

I know on the show, they often say, “We received an offer on such-and-such property,” but more often than not, they’re on the phone when they get a call from an agent, who simply shouts a price into the other end of the line.

An offer must be written, to be considered an offer.  Statute of Frauds.  Look it up.

And a sign-back must be written as well, as it is considered a counter offer.

Agents do negotiate verbally in our market, but I sure don’t.

Negotiating is an art form.  It’s one of the things top agents do best, and it comes in many forms.

I have no problem telling an agent on the phone, “Sorry, but I don’t negotiate verbally.  Put it on paper and we’ll see where we end up.”

When do you sign the offer back?  What do you say on the phone, in an email, or in person?  What terms and conditions do you include?  How do you speak to the other side?  Where do you do it?  How long do you wait?

There are so many tactics you can use to your advantage when negotiating with another agent, that to just talk on the phone, like they do on MDL, and go back-and-forth from $2M to $1.6M, to $1.9M, to $1.7M, and eventually land at $1.8M is exceptionally simplistic, and I don’t believe those agents would actually negotiate like that outside of the show.

2) We don’t have arch enemies.

How come each of these shows has only three agents, and they all hate each other?

How come they always seem to run into each other?

“Oh, fancy seeing you here again,” says Agent-1 to Agent-2, before they break for lunch, head to their trailers, and wait for the second scene to be called.

It’s a goddam TV show.  This doesn’t exist in real life.

There are a handful of tried-and-true, old-fashioned, “farm area experts” left in Toronto, who live in and dominate a geographic area, who might have a competitor they dislike.

But the “farm area experts” are dying out as technology allows agents to know every area of the city, every price point, every style of property.

On MDL, these agents seem to come up against each other again and again, personally and professionally.

It’s an act.  Plain and simple.

3) Our clients don’t constantly threaten to fire us.

This is a staple of MDL.

The agent always gets crap from their seller, there’s a bit of drama, words are exchanged, and in the end, the always end up doing the deal and happy music plays while they shake hands.

But in the interim, the seller gets aggressive, makes threats, and undermines the agent.

“Bob, you told me you were the best; you told me you would get me $4.8 Million!  Don’t call me back until you have that price!”

“Johnny, if you can’t get this deal done, then I’ll find somebody who will!”

That’s my favourite.  It’s how you know that this show is written and not experienced, since one writer must simply love going back to the well, over and over.

The seller always threatens his or her agent, and tells the agent that they’ll “find somebody who can get the job done.”

Maybe I’m just lucky to not fight with 78% of my clientele…

4) We don’t go to lunch to discuss everything.

The amount of face-to-face discussion on MDL almost makes me feel like it’s a television show with characters, and not actually real people selling real estate…

Who has this kind of time on their hands?

Is there no traffic in their cities?

Do they all work within 2-minutes of each other?

Are they on some sort of magical 38-hour clock?

How is it that “my client is interested in your property” necessitates a full lunch?

Is there no text messaging or emailing where they’re from?

It’s almost as though it’s 1876, and there’s no way of communicating without riding a horse into town to talk shop.

Even the folks on “Game of Thrones” had ravens…

5) We don’t negotiate deals at at events.

How come the agents always seem to meet at a cigar bar to negotiate a sale?

Why is it that when two agents are working on a deal, they’re standing down on a pier by the ocean, instead of sitting at their desks at the office?

I’ve never had an agent say, “David, I’m bringing you an offer on King Street.  Meet me at Spin – the ping-pong bar.”

Can you imagine me and a Royal LePage agent hammering backhands cross-court in that dark, underground labyrinth while trying to work on a deal?

“My buyer would like to make an offer on your condo listing.  Let’s go axe-throwing and discuss.”

6) We don’t crash each other’s “broker’s open’s.”

Every agent on these shows seems to have a vindictive side.

There’s always some dispute over a client, a property, or a deal, that always culminates with Agent-1 going to some swanky party that Agent-2 is throwing, and even though there’s no invite list, Agent-1 seems to be uninvited.

And speaking of throwing – how come Agent-1 always throws a drinks in Agent-2’s face?

My interactions are so much more cordial.

I don’t go to a lot of open houses, but when I do, I’m able to control myself so I don’t beat anybody up, break anything, or get flustered and rip off my shirt.

7) We don’t throw wicked-cool parties for every listing.

As for these “broker’s open’s,” they don’t really exist the way they do on the show.

I know, I know – these are $5 Million properties.

But these are also TV shows, and they’re scripted.

We host “agent open houses” and they’re usually between 11am and 1pm, on weekdays.

Very few, if any, real estate agents in Toronto will hold a rave at client’s property.

Can you imagine?

How do you explain to your client that you and a hundred agents will be partying until 2am in their condo?

MDL plays it off like it’s so matter-of-fact.  Close-up on Johnny as he calmly says, “I hired this great string quartet to play at my broker’s open, as they float on an ice sculpture, and swans bathe at their feet.  I really think this will help showcase the property in the light in which it deserves to be seen.”

I tried something like this exactly once.

I had a “Million Dollar Listing” that was one of the nicest condos in Toronto, and I figured I needed to be creative.  So I thew a party (no string quartet, but I did have wine-and-cheese), and I printed about 1,800 invitations – individually addressed to the agents, and hand-delivered them to all the downtown brokerages – about thirty in total.

From 6pm to 8pm on a Thursday, guess how many Realtors attended my “broker’s open?”

Zero.

Not a soul.

Like I said – it’s a TV show…

8) We don’t drive Lamborghini’s.

It might be true that real estate agents drive better-than-average cars, but we’re talking Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, and Audi.  Those are the four staples of real-life Realtors.

I have never, not once, ever, seen a real estate agent in a Ferrari, a Lambo, or a Rolls Royce.

I know, I know – you’ll tell me that these are luxury homes, and those cars are true luxury.

But as I said above, and at the risk of sounding repetitive – it’s a goddam TV show.

And who has a personal driver?

Not every list has to be a top-ten list, right?

The truth is, I don’t watch Million Dollar Listing.

I’ve heard a fair amount of it playing in the background as I work and my wife watches in the other room, and years ago, I may have tried to watch with her as I held my hand over my mouth, but I don’t know that much about the show.

So top-eight.  Maybe that’s a new trend?

Or maybe I’m just leaving room for you guys to fill out the list in the comment section below… 🙂

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  1. navyliz says:

    People clearly read your blog because they enjoy it. Your blog stimulates, educates, entertains and provokes. I’m pretty sure David isn’t upset by his naysayers, he should be flattered by the attention that they give him. Also thank-you David for showing us that you are human, week after week, much more so than most folks on reality tv… hence why they didn’t pick up your show. You … and your clients win!

  2. Fro Jo says:

    Hey you millionaires,
    Stop arguing about who’s more Millionairy. It’s unseemly.
    Signed,
    A. Plebe

  3. Random Observer says:

    Mike says he “expects David to be better.”

    What right does he have to expect anything?

    Kyle pointed out that there is no fee for this site, David does this all for free!

    1. Name says:

      Agree with random observer. And Kyle. And others. Everybody it would seem except Mike.

      I’ve learned a lot from this site. Thx for the info and the entertainment.

  4. Blake says:

    David I don’t know why you let Mike continue to slander you. He clearly enjoys this and has an agenda and he offers nothing to this blog.

    One of the best parts about your blog is the comments, and the fact that they are not like the Toronto Star and other websites where every comment is negative. Mike, and that guy Noel who is not around anymore, are the only people that consistently aim to fill your comment section with negativity. What is the point in having them around? It’s simply detracts from your message.

  5. Kyle says:

    Given that a million dollars barely buys a semi in Leslieville, Million Dollar Listing seems to be a pretty underwhelming name for the show.

    1. Mike says:

      Change.org

      Try that, see if they will correct this gross grammatical error

  6. EE says:

    No the best part is how angry and transparent Mike is. It’s so sad it’s actually entertaining.

    The worst part is how a really funny article was ripped apart for no good reason.

    I read this and laughed like crazy. The part about the cigar bar? The pier? The axe throwing? Hilarious!

    1. Mike says:

      No good reason? How about it lacked actual fact?

      Imagine you were a first time home buyer, watched the show and then read the blog, who would you believe?

      A show designed for entertainment or a blog that pretends to be educational?

      1. Kyle says:

        Since you are so much smarter, how about you just f’ off and start your own blog?

  7. Joel says:

    The best part of this thread is how Mike and Condowdweller are pointing out the problems in the article taking away the enjoyment of the media for others, in the same way that David does for his wife when she is watching the show… the irony.
    Enjoy the entertainment and take it for what it is!

  8. Random Observer says:

    Can I simply point out that it must be really, REALLY hard to come up with three blog posts per week, and that these two posts on MDL were meant to entertain us and stimulate the conversation?

    David, I enjoyed both of these posts and I never took everything you wrote as the word of God like some people.

    Kyle, you’re the voice of reason on this blog. Don’t ever change!

    1. jeff316 says:

      Agreed. I’ve been pretty critical of some of David’s posts in the past, sometimes to a level that I’m not proud of. I was an early reader of blogs in general and most (like podcasts!) peter out after a few years. I’m continually impressed by how David has managed to run such a long-standing blog, keep it interesting, and leverage it as a tool for his business. Well done.

    2. Kyle says:

      Thanks Random Observer, however the most reasonable thing mentioned in the comments was by you I regards to how much effort it must take to put out this blog. Clearly some people don’t appreciate or don’t have the faculties to understand what the kind of commitment must go into creating a blog like this. I don’t know how many hours David spends on this (the Yonge Eglinton post alone must have taken at least a whole weekend to prepare), but he puts out three solid jam packed posts every week, that both entertain and inform…FOR FREE! Yet you have these two clueless morons who come on to the comment section twisting what he has posted into some pathetic excuses to patronize him. Mike (aka president of the I hate David club) is so desperate to try to convince the world he’s a “somebody” that he can’t even keep his own bullshit straight from one day to the next. A couple of weeks ago housing was the Nortel stock of the tech boom and today he is shopping for house in Rosedale. His need to drop names and tidbits that he picked up from the Internet are so strong that if he doesn’t have an opening to work it in to a comment he’ll just twist what somebody has said so that he can show off what he knows in a response, but once challenged it be ones obvious that beyond the tidbit he knows nothing else. Then you have condodweller who when confronted for being douchey becomes a massive indignant hypocrite, who claims I am presumption for defending David and here she is defending Mike, claims I have can’t handle the truth, yet is the one who refuses to accept the truth of her douchiness, claims I don’t have a point and can only name call. Pretty obvious she is ignoring the many points I’ve already provided and additional ones made here. True I did call her an idiot, which i take back cause that would be an insult to all the other idiots in the world. Condodweller can only aspire to be just an idiot.

      1. Kyle says:

        Man i need to get much better at typing on a phone…

        1. condodweller says:

          You need to get better at several things. You might want to start with treating people with respect.

          1. Kyle says:

            Ahh more hypocritical condodweller nonsense. One would think that after you accused me of not having any points aside from insults, that you might want to leave a comment that had a point and didn’t involve an insult. But hey, like I said you can aspire to one day be just an idiot.

      2. Mike says:

        So Kyle, while you’re wondreing if you can save the floors of some Roncy reno I’m shorting bank calls. We are in the same game we just have different styles. I have invested heavily into real estate yes, because I’m not so worried about the price five years from now since I laid down cash. Still, I look for opportunities, much like yourself, where you’re fixing up a place in an area like ‘Roncy’ and hoping for the best. I like to call it diversification.

        That said, I’ve posted a bunch of facts to counter the OP, you claim I’m just doing this to be a “moron” but you refuse to refute my points. Please, prove me wrong. Tell me that there are no agents in Toronto driving Ferrari’s , no agent with a driver. There has never been an agent-to-agent lunch or meeting.

        But wait, you can’t. You have nothing.

        I double-dog-dare you to find fault in my argument. You can’t. You’re just a mindless cheerleader named S.A.D.

        1. Kyle says:

          Dude you have no point, like usual you have twisted what David said to try to make your pitiful arguments. Tell me where in the f’ did David say, “never in the history of real estate has an agent ever…”? He’s talking about what generally happens in the real world, you are talking about anecdotes from Mike’s world (i.e. Likely make-belief bullshit). The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Just because you claim that such things have happened to you, doesn’t mean that is how the real world operates. That’s just plain comprehension, keep working on that.

      3. condodweller says:

        Bravo Kyle Bravo! You managed to sink to yet a new low! You just keep proving my point with every post.

      4. moonbeam! says:

        David’s readers hopefully have noticed that he doesn’t moderate the comments, or filter out the negative ones. To me, that speaks volumes about his integrity. Thanx and kudos to his loyal and long-time blog readers who appreciate that he offers a free blog that informs and entertains.

  9. Sergio says:

    All I can say is, I understand why your wife doesn’t want to watch the show with you. lol

    I’d say there are nuggets of truth to everything on MDL, but they format it in a way that is more palatable to the viewer. The clients and agents are agreeing to be on tv, so obviously it’s easier to create a fantasy rather than the more boring reality.

    I also think what’s entertaining to an agent, wouldn’t be entertaining to the masses, if you are a new agent and actually want teaching tools, youtube is filled with people making real calls and giving real solid advice. Shows like MDL should really be viewed as entertainment, nothing more.

  10. Joe Q. says:

    If it makes you feel any better, David, scientists (especially analysis types, like chemists) feel the same way about “CSI”.

    1. condodweller says:

      @ Joe Q. It’s funny that you bring up CSI and David compared MDL to Law & Order because my understanding is that these shows were very much based real life. Especially Law & Order, I recall hearing comments when it started that it was the closest show to reality than anything prior and in fact a lot of legal types watched the show. I’m not a lawyer and certainly don’t have an opinion on how true it is, but that’s my understanding.

      CSI was another ground breaking show in that they used forensic experts as consultants for the stories. I’m sure there were embellishments to make it more entertaining and they may have deployed technology where it might have been cost prohibitive in real life but my understanding is that the science was accurate for the most part. It was a show for science geeks.

      Neither show was positioned as reality TV therefore I was ok suspending my disbelief occasionally for the entertainment value.

      1. Joe Q. says:

        I’m sure the science was correct, but the show mostly misrepresented what it’s like to work in that field. (The role of scientists, how long things take, how cut-and-dried the results are, etc.)

        Where I see overlaps with MDL (which I have not seen — just going on David’s description) is in the “career inspiration” department. CSI’s television run led to a massive increase in the number of people wanting to become forensic scientists (as judged by the proliferation of university programs) — far more than the job market appears to be able to support.

        1. jeff316 says:

          Agreed and can confirm your CSI:real life in the field comments.

      2. Wut says:

        I remember hearing all this talk about CSI being so realistic so I decided to watch an episode. It revolved around a frozen meat bullet being used to murder someone without leaving much of a trace.

        It was the last episode I watched.

    2. AndrewB says:

      I feel this way about medical shows. They’re incredibly glamourized with so many romantic relationships and don’t accurately portray what it’s like to work in a hospital or in healthcare.

  11. Ed says:

    For a guy who doesn’t watch MDL you sure seem to know a lot about the show.

  12. Tina says:

    Any one with a brain in their head that has been involved in real estate transaction knows MDL is pure entertainment! I love the characters in MDLNY!

    1. jeff316 says:

      I think that overexposure of reality real estate shows does influence client perceptions of real estate.

      And I’d bet that many prospective clients in the market segment in which David operates don’t like what they see.

      What some posters here do not understand is that these TV-based blog posts are much more than real estate agent rants.

  13. Mike says:

    1. We don’t vs. I don’t-“Agents do negotiate verbally in our market, but I sure don’t.”
    Happens all the time, its not binding until it’s written up but neither is it in the show. My agent did it last week while I was at a dinner. I believe it’s called negotiating. The Seller’s agent called him to say that they needed a little longer on the close and wanted another condition reduced, he could have written it up to have me sign and then fax back but he called instead, I made some additional changes and he called the Selling agent to run them by her.

    2. I’m sure if you worked in a small market as these guys do (not LA or NYC but ultra high end) you’d run into the same brokers time-and-time again eventually you may grow to dislike someone you see at each and every open house. Sounds like we vs. I again.

    3. I’ve done it. I’ve put an offer my agent felt was too low and he was uncomfortable with it. I told him that he was required to submit the offer and if he was uncomfortable I’d get someone else. Again, this happens. In fact, you’ve said so yourself David. While being uncomfortable with bully offers you need to do them because if you don’t your client will just go to another agent.

    4. I think a lot of this is for TV purposes as well rather than have every discussion happen over the phone, which would be boring TV but I’m pretty sure a lot of agents do lunch together.

    5. Again, I’ll give you that it’s probably a TV thing but there are a number of events that are sponsored by real estate agencies that are attended by agents where I’m sure the discuss business. I’m sure if two happened into one another at a Leafs game at least one agent would utter the phrase “do you have anyone for this listing I have coming up”. I’ve hear it a hundred times at least in Summerhill Markets.

    6. Again TV but you do attend each others brokers open and if the open house is by an agent you don’t nessecarilly like do you skip it? If you do then you’ve done a disservice to your clients if you go your guilty of the “crashing the agents open house”. Again, these guys are selling multi-million dollar listings (I think they got the name from that) limited product on the market so you need to be aware of it. If you told your client you didn’t got see the new 6,000 sq/f apartment over looking the park because you think the agent is a dick you’d probably be more familiar with number 3.

    7. This is more a function of it being against the rules and law to serve alcohol at open houses. If you wanted to make this point, there was a listing last week that came up offering “champagne and chocolate dipped strawberries” at the agent’s open house, right in the public listing. Obviously this person had forgotten the rules and had been influenced by the show.

    8. I know a number of agents with Ferrari’s but don’t take them out with them to work because it’s too flashy. We do live in Canada where we tend to be more modest and practical. That said, I know Robert Geenberg at HK has some really nice cars that he uses for work and that his bosses wife has the nicest driver in the world. So again “I vs. we”.

    Run wild Kyle.

    1. Ed says:

      Mike you seem like the type that would talk during the whole show. I’m not watching with you.

      1. jeff316 says:

        Haha! Or the type that would tell Robert Greenberg that’s he’s not really getting maximum value for money by spending all that cash on cars, without understanding (or, more likely, caring) that brands are built and defined not just by those that react positively, who reacts negatively and how.

        This blog is a branding tool, a marketing tool, and a blog – in that order. What people maybe don’t understand is that this blog is David’s Ferrari.

        Mike’s responses of late don’t just drive comment traffic, they reinforce and complement the brand that David is trying to build, particularly with the sliver of the market that is receptive to his brand.

      2. jeff316 says:

        Haha! Or the type that would tell Robert Greenberg that’s he’s not really getting maximum value for money by spending all that cash on cars, without understanding (or, more likely, caring) that brands are built and defined not just by those that react positively, but also by who reacts negatively and how.

        This blog is a branding tool, a marketing tool, and a blog – in that order. What people maybe don’t understand is that this blog is David’s Ferrari.

        Mike’s responses of late don’t just drive comment traffic, they reinforce and complement the brand that David is trying to build, particularly with the sliver of the market that is receptive to his brand.

    2. Daniel says:

      David, get rid of this guy already. He clearly has an axe to grind with you and he’s no ever posted anything but Spite.

      1. Mike says:

        How so? Do you dispute any of the points I’ve made? MDL is just a dolled up version of Canada’s Big City Broker. Everything David rails against, Brad does, including driving around the City of Toronto in a Bentley. Lots of agents can’t stand Brad Lamb and Brad hosts parties to sell real estate.

        David is making statements as if they are facts and quite simply he’s wrong.

        1. condodweller says:

          @Mike I’m chiming in just to say you are correct on all your points in today’s post as well as Monday’s. You may have been a little harsh on Monday’s post but still correct. Some people just can’t handle the truth, and when they can’t come up with a valid counter argument they resort to name calling. Witness Kyles’ response to my post and most likely his comment on this. Let’s see how good his vocabulary is to see if he can come up with words other than idiot and douche 🙂

        2. Appraiser says:

          So let’s get this straight Mike, you’re declaring the validity of one reality TV show by comparing it to another. Now that’s an irrefutable argument.

          You seem so knowledgeable, a veritable real estate guru. You’re always ordering around Realtors, putting in offers, looking at properties in Rosedale, overhearing “hundreds” of realtor conversations and rubbing shoulders with Ferrari owning agents. Very impressive.

          Seems to me that you are living inside your very own “reality” show.

          1. Mike says:

            Appraiser,

            I expected a better retort from you. Generally you base your posts on hard evidence.

            Reducing yourself to a personal attack, come on, don’t fall into that trap.

        3. Wut says:

          You can also watch that Mike Donia tool on top million dollar agent if you want to see a Toronto agent driving around in a Lambo, Ferrari, or Bentley.

      2. RPG says:

        @ Daniel

        You’re playing right into Mike’s hand here.

        You’re right in that he hates David and he’s a classic blog troll.

        But try to picture him as the misunderstood, ignored 5-year-old who intentionally pissess his pants for the amusement of his classmates, but then has to sit through class in piss-soaked pants. Personally, I pity him, like the classmates must pity that 5-year-old child. He seems so angry, and his hate on for David is most likely driven by personal or professional jealousy.

        He posted, “Run wild, Kyle.” He wants attention. He’s probably sitting there clicking reload over and over to see what people write. That’s what blog trolls do.

        1. Alice says:

          This post was supposed to be “funny.” It was supposed to be fun.

          Mike, do you know what that means?

        2. condodweller says:

          @ RPG I’m sorry, David laid out a list of differences as facts between MDL and Toronto real estate to which Mike replied with counter arguments. Some valid ones I might add. How do you arrive at the conclusion from this that he hates David?

          1. jeff316 says:

            Re: condodweller — agreed. The reality is that David made generalized distinctions based on personal anecdotes and Mike pointed out some anecdotes which serve as exceptions that don’t disprove the rules. Neither disproves the other, and neither has tried. Certainly no hate there. If anything, and without casting aspersions, I’ve always wondered if the recent Mikes of this blog were plants as for a while the comment sections of these articles were kinda dead for a while. Let’s be honest, each of these reality TV articles would have had how many responses without you or Mike?

        3. Mike says:

          RPG

          I’m not sure where you get that I “hate” David? On the contrary, I think he runs an interesting business and is an innovator in Toronto realty.

          I do have issue with him posting misrepresenting facts.

          I mean he has posting about how a television show misrepresents real estate when in fact it doesn’t, it just represents a part of the business that he’s unaccustomed to.

          Maybe a better blog topic would have been “How MDL has changed the expectations of the Toronto Real Estate Industry” and then went on to talk about how it’s not all fancy cars, nice suits, lunches and million dollar listings. Maybe the blog could be about something he knows about, like late night offers that go bust, dealing with crying clients, worrying about how you’re going to pay your bills while you build your business.

          I’m not saying David is wrong, I’m just asking him to be better.

    3. jeff316 says:

      You might have some interesting things to say, yet often reply to what you wanted David to write instead of what he did write. Your “I vs. we” comments imply that you understand this, yet you continue to do so. It’s weird. And obscures any value in your posts.

    4. David says:

      Wow you must be fun at parties Mike

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