There’s a saying that listing agents use from time to time, and it goes like this:
“My clients can’t accept what isn’t in front of them.”
It’s a way of trying to convince a buyer agent, whose clients are on the fence or lying in wait, to bring an offer on the property.
You can see how this plays out in various scenarios, right?
Consider the buyer agent who’s posturing, or testing the waters: “Do you think your clients would accept $2,000,000?”
A non-committal answer would be, “Well, my clients can’t accept what isn’t in front of them.” It’s a nice way of telling the buyer agent to bring the offer, without showing your hand and directly answering the question.
Consider the listing agent who’s out there, grinding away, trying to drum up business, and while trying to avoid sounding desperate, simply offers to the buyer agent, “Look, Jimmy, my sellers can’t accept what isn’t in front of them.”
I use this line all the time, and do so in a multitude of situations.
But know this: even though this is a metaphor, it’s also very true when used in a literal sense, and that is the premise of our story today!
When it comes to the most basic tenets of contract law, you would have to understand that you can’t accept an offer that’s not in front of you – that doesn’t exist. Right?
Well, there are many times in real estate, sorry to say, when agents do try to accept an offer that doesn’t exist, and it’s usually because of one of two reasons:
1) The agent is ignorant and uneducated, lacking the knowledge required to understand contract law.
2) The agent is looking to cut a corner, be lazy, be sneaky, or be unethical.
I honestly don’t know which one is worse, but let me tell a story today that lays out all the facts, and then you can decide why the agent did what he did…
I have a listing for a freehold property, priced at $1,199,900, which has been on the market since Labour Day.
It’s a fantastic house, and I say that without bias. The home is located in an area that’s dominated by “unloved” homes, which is to say that my clients have not only taken great care of the home but also have wonderful taste, and the home’s aesthetic benefits from their style.
We received two offers from buyers that seemed to be running around the neighbourhood, lowballing sellers. To be honest, I don’t blame the buyers. There are deals to be had out there in this market, and there are a lot of homes that don’t present well and might deserve a lowball.
Our home is not one of those, however. We rejected two lowball offers without signing them back, which spits in the face of another one of my mottos: “Never let a deal die,” but when somebody offers you $980,000 on $1,199,900, and the buyer agent’s email reads, “We saw twenty houses on the weekend and we’re giving you a CHANCE to sell before we move on to another home,” you know pretty quickly that this isn’t your trade partner.
The third offer that we received on the property was a good one: $1,150,000.
The terms were reasonable, i.e. deposit, closing date, conditions, etc., and we elected to work with the offer.
I called the agent and asked what I always ask: “Where is this offer going?”
A good buyer agent will work around the question, but many agents just like to hear themselves speak.
An agent might say, “Well, my clients want to get the property for $1,500,000, so they offered $1,400,000, thinking that we’d have to sign it back-and-forth at least three times, so that’s our plan.”
I know it’s hard to believe that an agent would offer this, but they do it all the time.
In this case, the buyer agent said, “Let me speak to my clients and I’ll get back to you,” so I figured we had nothing to lose by waiting.
The buyer agent called me back and said, “They’re pre-approved for $1,150,000, but I know that’s not going to do it, so I’ll see if their parents can top them up.”
Once again, I waited.
And once again, he called me back and said, “Okay, I think I can get them to $1,170,000. If you sign back at that number, I think I can get them to accept it.”
I called my clients and passed the information along.
We weighed the pros and cons of signing back at $1,170,000 and trusting that the buyer agent could get the buyers on board, and we talked about signing back at $1,175,000 or $1,180,000, which assumed that most buyers want the final sign-back.
In the end, the sellers decided to sign back at $1,175,000 and see how the buyers would respond. They understood the risk in signing back at this number versus any other number, and were completely on board.
We sent the counter offer over to the listing agent, and he responded in two hours with yet another sign back, this one at $1,160,000.
He said, “I tried my best, but now the parents are involved, and they’re telling their kids it’s a buyer’s market and they should be lowballing…”
Who knows if any of that is true or if it’s just negotiation, but in any event, their sign-back to us at $1,160,000 came with a “best and final” notation, and an irrevocable of 11:59pm the next day.
The following morning, I spoke to my clients, who said, “We’re not really in a good position here. We’re thinking about just accepting the $1,160,000 offer.”
I told them that, given the market in their area, they had to consider it. But they also had to weigh the risk/reward equation associated with signing back at $1,165,000 or $1,170,000.
They said that they wanted to discuss and that they’d get back to me.
As I waited for my clients to get back to me, I received a text message from the buyer agent:
Any update? 😊
This struck me as somewhat odd, since it was 9:30am and they had given us a “best and final” offer with authority. We had until 11:59pm that evening, so the text message was very telling.
All of a sudden, I began to believe that the buyer agent was nervous.
A nervous buyer agent is one that you can play with, and so I decided to do exactly that.
I texted back:
Hi Bob, thanks for checking in. I don’t know what they’re going to do, but I know they’re not accepting $1,160,000. Full transparency here: we have another agent who said she’s bringing an offer. And since we have until 11:59pm on your offer, we’re going to take the day to see what happens. Thx!
This was a bluff, in case that’s not obvious. We had other showings, but nothing was imminent. And the sellers were considering the $1,160,000, as I noted above.
But we had absolutely nothing to lose.
Worst case: the buyer agent says, “It’s our best and final, so take it or we walk away.”
Best case: the buyer agent is nervous and lets something slip that we can use to our advantage, or starts to negotiate against himself.
What ended up happening was something both better and worse at the same time.
What happened was something that I have only ever experienced once before in my twenty-one-year career.
About thirty minutes after my text message exchange with the buyer agent, my email chimed.
The subject of the email read:
789 Cherry Blossom Way – Accepted Offer
Um, what?
Speak into my good ear, please and thanks.
How can the offer be accepted when the offer doesn’t exist?
The body of the email read as follows:
Hi David, Congratulations! The buyers have accepted your client’s counter-offer. Please send me an acknowledged copy of the APS once your seller’s have signed, as well as a copy of the deposit instructions. Looking forward to working with you on this transaction!
Now we had a problem.
You see, the buyer agent had his clients “accept” the offer from the previous night; our counter-offer of $1,175,000.
But that offer didn’t exist anymore. It was nullified as soon as the buyers signed it back at $1,160,000.
You might be asking, “David, isn’t this a good thing? You got the buyer agent and the buyers to agree to the price that your seller wanted! And your sellers were about to accept a lower price!”
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to sell the house for $1,175,000, but we needed to do so legally.
In case any of you don’t follow, let me explain…
We were provided an offer of $1,150,000.
When we signed that offer back at $1,175,000, the offer of $1,150,000 became null and void.
The buyers signed our $1,175,000 offer back at $1,160,000. The moment that happened, the offer of $1,175,000 became null and void.
The fact that an offer is nullified the moment a counter offer is provided is perhaps the most basic tenet of contract law.
Should real estate agents understand the most basic tenets of contract law?
Absolultey.
So did the agent in this case not know? Or not care?
I wasn’t sure.
But what I did know was that this was a problem.
I called my seller clients and said, “Guys, I have good news and I have bad news.”
I explained that the buyers wanted to pay us $1,175,000 for the home, and that they tried to put an accepted offer at this price on the table, but that the way they went about it wasn’t legal, and could cause us issues down the line.
“They can’t accept our offer of $1,175,000 from last night because they negated that offer when they signed back to us at $1,160,000,” my client said.
“That’s correct,” I replied.
And in that moment, I realized that my client, who works in computer software, seemed to know more about real estate contracts than the buyer’s agent whom we were working with!
My other client said, “David, what do you recommend we do here? What are the potential outcomes?”
I explained that while we could simply say “screw it” and work with the accepted offer, which isn’t legal, there’s a 99% chance that the transaction would proceed without issue. But if, for some reason, the buyer wanted out of the purchase over the next three months, they could argue that the accepted offer wasn’t legal.
We would have their deposit in trust, and this could take years to sort out in court, but ultimately, the courts would determine that the contract wasn’t valid.
No matter how narrow the odds that this would happen, we simply couldn’t risk it.
“I need to explain to the buyer agent that he’s done this incorrectly,” I explained to my clients. “I need him to understand that we will sign back to them, and they have to accept.”
So I did exactly that.
I called the buyer agent and I said, “Listen, I appreciate that you want to work with us, but that accepted agreement isn’t valid.”
He didn’t understand.
I said, “You’ve accepted an offer that we provided last night, which was nullified the moment you signed it back.”
He answered, “What does it matter? If a buyer and seller want to make a deal, and they agree, then what does it matter?”
This was the outcome that I was afraid of.
He continued, “Look, you told me that you were getting another offer, and we didn’t want to risk that, so we accepted your offer. Done and done.”
Yes, he was pulling a fast one. And to be quite honest, he played right into my hand, since I wanted him to fear a potential competing offer so we could get a deal done.
But not like this.
A buyer can’t accept an offer that a seller hasn’t presented, and in this case, with a $1,160,000 offer on the seller’s table, there was nothing for the buyer to accept.
At this point, I was afraid of losing the buyer. But my hands were tied.
I couldn’t move forward with the invalid agreement that we had in hand.
So I told the buyer agent, “I’ll tell you what, you’ve put me in a tough spot because you’ve told your buyers that they purchased a home, and we’ve made a mess of it.”
Of course, “we” didn’t make a mess of it, but I wasn’t going to get him agitated and risk his emotions getting the best of him.
I said, “I’ll have my clients sign back to you at $1,175,000, and you can have your buyers accept it.”
He said, “But they’ll ask why they’re signing this. They think they bought a house. They’ll wonder what I did wrong.”
I told him, “You have a relationship with your buyer clients. You know best how to proceed and what to say to them. I’m going to leave this in your capable hands.”
I had my clients sign the valid $1,160,000 offer back to the buyers at $1,175,000, and presented this valid offer to the buyer’s agent.
Lo and behold, he got it done.
He sent me an accepted agreement within the hour; a valid accepted agreement this time, and disaster was averted.
I feel as though a small percentage of the readers might be wondering why we went to all this trouble to simply clean up what could be viewed as “sloppy paperwork.”
You could call the difference in the two accepted offers “a technicality.”
But at the end of the day, there’s the right way to do things, and then there’s, well, that’s it. There’s no other way to do things, especially in this market.
I don’t consider this an example of my “glass being half-full,” and the fact that the chances were slim that the buyers would pull out of the deal on this technicality really doesn’t matter. Real estate is a profession, and its participants need to behave professionally. There are way too many people cutting corners, taking chances, and deliberately skirting rules and laws.
We need to do better.
But unless or until the industry is magically transformed, I would caution every buyer and seller out there to proceed with an extra layer of caution.
There’s doing it right, and then there’s every other way.
And the only way to do things is the right way…


Serge
at 8:47 am
“area that’s dominated by “unloved” homes” – is not it a euphemism for an area with demographics where incomes do not support house maintenance anymore?
Izzy Bedibida
at 9:29 am
Or where a culture of being “house proud” is the not the predominant culture anymore. Saw how the neighbourhood where I grew up change with once nice maintained houses looked like they are starting to fall appart, or renovated using very questionable materials and processes.
Serge
at 6:56 pm
That could be so. But when I see those falling apart houses along Bathurst downtown, and see seniors living there, my best guess – they simply do not have $$$ to fix those issues. Some of houses turned into income properties (student on the porch), so the same issue. That is economy, no culture. But in other places, it could be culture, too.
Izzy Bedibida
at 4:25 pm
In the neighbourhood where I grew up, there was a very big “house proud” culture. The few seniors of the original “house proud” culture left are still working hard to maintain their homes as best as they can. The original owner houses are normally sold above asking and/or garner bidding wars.
With subsequent owners, the houses start degrading and often languish on the market.
Serge
at 9:22 am
I can see it. E.g., an investor buys a house close to a college, let in 10 students and does not care. But David writes “The home is located in an area that’s dominated by “unloved” homes” – so it is not even a block, it is probably… 200-300 houses? may be 500? What warranted such recent massive change in ownership and following neglect? Go figure…
Marina
at 9:29 am
Nice call on the flattery. I’m sure the only reason he was wriggling was because he didn’t want to look incompetent. But there are so many ways to finesse out of it – looks like it took him less than an hour to come up with one.
Bob
at 10:01 am
“Full transparency here: we have another agent who said she’s bringing an offer.” If this was a Bluff, meaning you did have an agent who said an offer is forthcoming, is this ethical? Offside on RECO rules?
David Fleming
at 12:29 pm
@ Bob & Sasha
You see, I knew somebody would bring this up.
I was going to get out ahead of it in the post, but I figured it would sound too defensive.
Under RECO rules, offers must be registered, and registered offers must be disclosed.
Guys, I want to be realistic here.
You can say, “My clients won’t accept $1,000,000” when negotiating, even if it’s not true.
You could say, “My clients are going to take the property off the market if they don’t get their price,” even if it’s not true.
You can say a lot of things, but so can the buyer.
The buyer agent can say, “If you don’t accept our offer, we’re bidding on another house. We have the offer drafted and ready to go,” even if that’s not true. How is that any different from me saying, “I have another agent who wants to bring an offer?”
You can say “I have lots of interest,” when it’s not true, or “I’ve got a lot of showings.” In this case, we had a second showing the night before and the agent was interested. They didn’t register an offer, but I believed they would have brought an offer if we didn’t sell. In fact, they were in touch during our conditional period, saying they’d bring a backup offer if the deal didn’t firm up.
Derek
at 7:40 am
This screams out for a post on “White Lies: where is the line in negotiating home sales?”
Derek
at 12:16 pm
Let’s open this up to alternate title suggestions for the blog post 🙂
Ace Goodheart
at 6:08 pm
I knew about this.
I actually, each time I have bought and sold a house, have instructed my realtor not to lie during negotiations.
I caught it once before when reading emails and I was like, no, not doing that. There is a person (or a couple) on the other side of it, trying to buy or sell a house, and they deserve to be respected as that (as a person).
I don’t allow an agent working for me to do that.
Derek
at 10:58 pm
People can rightfully observe that everybody does it blah blah, do whatever to get the best deal blah blah, but there is specific language in the professional guidelines that addresses it and it is not ambiguous, if that means anything to anyone. Maybe it’s just inconceivable that the best deal can be achieved without doing that?
Sasha
at 10:01 am
Not sure how you can say “full transparency…” (we have another agent who said she’s bringing an offer) and call it a “bluff”. Call it semantics but that’s a lie and I’d love to know why it’s considered normal in real estate. [And yes, I’m not naïve, I realize it is considered part of negotiation but that doesn’t make it right].
Jennifer
at 1:28 pm
This is precisely the issue with how real estate is sold, but people need to know their limits.
If they just sat on it and waited until expiry they may have gotten it cheaper, or maybe not. If they signed back originally at 1.17 they probably would have gotten it at that price. Ultimately, not worth losing a house that you like over 10,000 (and same for seller) even if you think he is bluffing. If they were 100,000 apart or something material not sure the bluffing would’ve worked and they may have waited it out.
But also, even if an offer is registered, it could still be a friend with a bogus or junk offer at a way too low a price. There is probably no solution other than knowing each party is playing poker.
Anwar
at 4:32 pm
Oh everybody get off your moral high ground here.
You want to eat the steak but you don’t want to meet the cow, right?
Get me the highest price when I’m selling but don’t you dare play games when I’m buying.
This is probably so vanilla compared to what actually goes on.
Give the guy a break lol
Peter
at 8:21 pm
David: you must remember that people expect to live in a utopia in 2025. You told a story where you demonstrated the utmost professionalism and ethical nature. And people ignored that in order to find fault with a common negotiation tactic. I agree with Anwar: the average person wants you to do everything you can to sell their home for the highest dollar but they want to play by a different set of rules when sitting on the other side of the fence. I enjoyed the story. More of these please and thank you.
Derek
at 1:21 pm
Sounds like buyer agent had authority to do the deal at the 1.175 but probably said, we can do better, trust me. Then panicked.
David, would you coach your junior buyer agents, when they’re grinding for a better deal, to shorten the irrevocable period to a couple hours instead of until end of next day? Avoid the prospect of the seller agent being able to suggest you’ll soon be in competition?
Lizard
at 3:44 pm
I am also not fond of these white lies (such as the fantom other offer) when i read about them. At the same time the other realtor said 1.16 was the best and final offer which was clearly not the case. I do think this warrants another post about dishonesty and realtors. Its one thing to “lie” to another agent to try to get the best deal for your client but what about lying to your own clients. Where is the fine line? Also you talk about contracts but how legal is it if a realtor is “authorized to go to a certain price in negotiations” and then the buyer/seller refuses to sign it or changes their mind. Has this ever happened?
Steve
at 9:58 pm
Very entertaining post! And instructive too!