What To Do About Your Crazy Neighbour

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May 7, 2012

We all have, or have had at one point, a neighbour that is one step short of certifiably insane.

But what do you do when you live in a condo and that neighbour is legally your partner in the condominium corporation?

I’ve had some very interesting condo neighbours over the years.

If you’ve been reading my blog for over a year now, then you likely read the story about the marijuana grow-op that was being run out of the condo next door to me in my old building.  That neighbour was always a bit strange, so it came as no surprise when the cops busted her one night for having 80+ plants growing in an elaborate and expensive setup in her 535 square feet.

On a long enough time horizon, you’re going to have some neighbours that you can’t stand.

Some neighbours are loud, some cook stinky foods, some throw cigarette butts down on your terrace, and some have visitors banging on their doors at 3am for some odd reason…

If you’ve never had a bad neighbour, then consider yourself lucky!  But also consider odds are – you’re going to get one soon!

My sister was telling me that across the hall from her is an Eastern European family with two teenage sons, and after the parents left (presumably on vacation), the kids have been throwing parties every single night.  She says “It’s like Jersey Shore moved in next door.”

What can she do?

The parents are away, and the way parents are today – they probably won’t discipline the kids when they get back.

These are the things we have to deal with when we live in condominiums and in very close proximity to one-another, and my honest-to-goodness advice is, “Just get used to it.”

But what do you do when your neighbour takes things to the next level?

I mean what do you do when your neighbour isn’t just being loud, but rather when your neighbour actually scares the crap out of you and questions your safety?

In my old building, my next-door-neighbour was the victim of an attempted break-in, and she awoke one night to find a man trying to squeeze his way through a small patio window.  We figured that he climbed up the tree that was off the back alleyway (we lived on the second floor), and so the obvious thing to do was have the tree removed by the city.

As obvious as the tree-removal solution was, to protect our safety, one person in our building didn’t like the solution.

My neighbour came home one day to find a threatening note that read, “How come you think you can remove that tree?  This isn’t over.  You’re going to get it.”

I might laugh that one off, but my neighbour was a young, single girl who was frightened for her safety.

I read the note and I figured that the person who wrote it was likely a crazy old woman.  Doesn’t that fit?  Do you think that a Ted Bundy-like serial killer is going to take issue with a tree being removed?  Probably not.  Forgive me for generalizing, but a 70-year-old woman who values the presence of a tree as much as she values kisses from her cat is the type of person who would make threats after this tree, which served as a ladder for break-ins, was removed.

My neighbour suspected the woman above her, but never did anything about it.

It wasn’t until the woman began dumping buckets of water on my neighbour’s head that she finally took issue!

Several times during the course of the summer, the old lady snuck out onto the balcony to pour a sizable amount of water down below on the people enjoying a night on the terrace.  My neighbour finally called the police, and after meeting with the old lady, they determined that she was crazy enough to warrant contacting her family, and suggesting a mental exam of some type.

I now find myself in the very same situation.

When I moved into my new condo, I had some work being done on my terrace.  I came home one day and found that the workers had left, and when I asked them why they stopped working, they said, “We’re not allowed to work on Saturday.”

I asked property management why they were told not to work on a Saturday, when there is nothing to indicate that in the rules, and property management said that not only is work permitted on Saturday, but also that they didn’t tell my workers to stop!

I went back to the workers for clarification, and they said, “Oh yeah, it was the woman three floors above you that stopped us.  She said we weren’t allowed to be there.”

After the weekend I just had, and after my interactions with this lady, the “we weren’t allowed to be there” excuse that my workers gave me, makes perfect sense, since she told me that I wasn’t allowed to be there either…

I was out on my terrace on Saturday afternoon, planting some flowers, and listening to music, and somebody above me shouted, “F*** YOU!  F*** YOU!  TURN THAT MUSIC OFF!”

I figured there was probably a better way of asking, and I was surprised that somebody felt the need to curse at one-hundred decibels, but not everybody is polite as we’d like them to be!

My music wasn’t on that loud, and given that there were several people out on their balconies, from what I could tell, that were BBQ’ing and listening to music, I wondered why I was being targeted.

I carried on my way, and again somebody yelled, “YOU CAN’T DO THAT!  TURN IT OFF!”

I looked up, and I saw a woman in her late-60’s, with long silver hair, leaning over the balcony, pacing back and forth.

She shouted, “YOU CAN’T BE HERE!  YOU’RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE THERE!  YOU HAVE TO LEAVE RIGHT NOW!”

That’s when I realized: she’s crazy.

She has no idea what world she’s in.  She’s not a normal person asking me to turn off my music, she’s a nut who believes that I’m not allowed to be there.

“YOU CAN’T BE THERE!” She shouted again.  “YOU’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE!”

I believe the medical term is “bat-shit crazy.”

She wasn’t making any sense at all.  I have no idea what was going on in her mind, but perhaps she believes she’s the sole occupant in this building and that this whole place belongs to her.  Perhaps she believes I’m an intruder.  Maybe I’m an alien.

She continued shouting “YOU HAVE TO LEAVE!  YOU HAVE TO GET OUT OF HERE.”

I finally shot back, “Please go away.  I’m okay, I’m fine.  Please go away.”

And that’s when things got a little weird.

She yelled, “I’M GOING TO KILL YOU.”

Wow.  Intense!  She was already killing the fashion world with her pants hiked up to her ribcage, and her silver hair blowing in the wind.  But kill me?  Really?

“I’M GOING TO KILL YOU I’M GOING TO KILL YOU I’M GOING TO KILL YOU,” she yelled, over and over and over.

And then she got really specific, “I’M GOING TO KILL YOU….TONIGHT!”

Wow.  Now she was actually laying out a schedule of events for my impending demise.

Not  only was she planning on killing me, and not only was she comfortable telling me this, but she also had the day and time planned!

She finally went away, and although I didn’t really care that much about what she said, it kind of stuck with me.

My fiancée got home and I told her, “The old lady three floors above us is going to kill me tonight.”  My fiancée responded, “Well I was pretty close to smothering you with a pillow as you slept last night, so it just goes to show you – people sometimes change their minds.”

I love this woman.  She has such a great sense of humour! 🙂

But part of me wondered what I might come to expect from this nutcase who I’ll be in close proximity to in the forseeable future.  Oh – sorry, I meant the old lady, not my fiancee….I just wanted to clarify that.

Can I expect buckets of water to be dumped on my head?

Is she going to call the police the next time I have the audacity to stand out on my own terrace?

The woman clearly has mental issues, and I’m hoping it doesn’t escalate from here.  Just before I moved out of my old building, my neighbour was telling me that she and property management were trying to have the woman who lived above her “removed” from the building.  I can honestly say that I don’t know how one goes about “removing” a crazy person, but surely when things escalate to a no-turning-back level, you have to take drastic measures.

In the end, I survived the night, and I didn’t suffer any bodily-harm at the hands of the silver-haired would-be murderer.

Just remember that whether you buy a house or a condo – there are going to be interactions with the people that live near you.  In a condo, you’re partners with them, like it or not, and you all live by the same rules and regulations.  With a house, you can always big a bigger, taller fence, but short of moving to a different area, you’re often stuck with your problems.

If you find yourself having issues with neighbours in your condo, the first step is a note to the property manager, and then to the Board of Directors.  It’s kept anonymous, and remember that these people are here to help you, not to control you.

If all else fails, you might have to call the police.  Trust me – it happens a LOT more than you think…

Written By David Fleming

David Fleming is the author of Toronto Realty Blog, founded in 2007. He combined his passion for writing and real estate to create a space for honest information and two-way communication in a complex and dynamic market. David is a licensed Broker and the Broker of Record for Bosley – Toronto Realty Group

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16 Comments

  1. Moonbeam!

    at 7:06 am

    When someone threatens you, even verbally, you must call the police. If you aren’t doing anything illegal, then the police will be on your side. Don’t wait, do it now so they can visit her, make a report, and be aware of the situation.

    1. Joe Q.

      at 12:14 pm

      Agreed. You don’t want to mess around with death threats, no matter how improbable they may seem.

  2. dave

    at 9:06 am

    “I’M GOING TO KILL YOU…TONIGHT!”

    Hilarious. 🙂

    1. Suzanne

      at 11:53 am

      At least the threat is over with, the next day

  3. mike

    at 10:43 am

    I think the next time she is out there yelling you should said, fly down here and kill me please…she probably will “fly” for 3 floors.

  4. Matt

    at 11:25 am

    Kill you? You must have been listening to awful music for that to be the case. Kidding.

    I’d file a report with police. It might help the building to get rid of her.

  5. Anonymous

    at 12:16 pm

    I would’ve filed a report… if anything happens you have it on record.

    But that was pretty funny.

  6. Jonnath

    at 3:05 pm

    I would have shouted back, ” No, I am going to kill YOU….tonight”!

    I think she would have left you alone after that.

    1. Krupo

      at 11:33 pm

      With his luck, she would then call the police on him. Not a good idea.

  7. johnny chase

    at 5:04 pm

    Reason #1 why I wouldn’t buy a condo…

  8. Elle

    at 7:32 am

    I’m having problems with a couple of neighbours harassing my cat. Since they aren’t threatening me directly, I am not sure what can be done. I’m sure the police won’t care.
    THere are two kids (20 year old jerks) across the street from me, who like to party. I like to call my cat in the afternoon so that I can know where she is. I noticed a few times when I called her, they would mock me and shout things like “shut up.”
    Then I came home one night and one of them did not see me approaching and he charged at her she was in the adjacent sidewalk, apparently for fun. Laughing to his friends.
    In the last few months, Ive noticed, she hides if any of my male friends come over.
    I am trying to think of anything legal I can do that won’t put her or me in more Jeopardy.

    1. Maggie K.

      at 12:10 am

      Your cat shouldn’t be outdoors. Most cities require that pets not be ‘at large’. Don’t be surprised if something bad happens to it.

  9. FedUp

    at 5:05 pm

    We’ve recently moved to six50 King Street and have the problem of cigarette butts constantly being tossed down from balconies above.

    Some of the cigarettes were clearly still lit when they were thrown down (you could see that they’ve continued burning) and this is getting to become a fire hazard. We’ve complained to the Property Manager from Simerra, without even receiving a response from him.

    Has anyone experienced this problem? Who else can we escalate this problem to?

  10. Pierre

    at 9:22 am

    Thanks for this incredibly beautiful stories. It helped a lot. 🙂

  11. Suzanne

    at 11:50 am

    My crazy neighbour, The Narcissist Next Door, is at it again, This time she insists in OCDing the large cedar hedge between us, ( a hedge that I recured) by having it trimmed. It can hardly be seen especially by her, as it is behind where she keeps her garbage bins and beside her garage where she cannot see unless she makes some very special efforts.
    So when she mentioned trimming it I reacted by saying I am happy with the way it is or I can trim it myself. So she had it trimmed professionally. Of course the trimmers did not do it quite right so she spent a great deal of time completing the job in her OCD way. Meanwhile the little trees that I grow alongside this hedge for extra privacy, I had tied down so that the trimmer wouldnot cut with the hedge. These I untied and they went back in their original place. That interfered with her low cut hedge.
    This woman appears to have an obsession with seeing into my yard, well, my entire property and then will copy what she sees me doing, which I donnot mind as I believe imiation is flattering. She however complains when someone copies her ideas (when often came from me in the first place)
    So getting back to my little trees interfering with her cut hedge….this must have really pissed her off, so it appears she found a way to retaliate.
    She knows (I foolishly told her) how I like privacy and those hedges provided that for me nicely, Not only did she have them trimmed but now I begin to notice that she is thinning them out, all the way down, very gradually so that they may eventually disappear. So she, is in her mind (the mind of a narcissist) is now winning, by taking away something that I like, well, liked. Cutting you nose off to spite your face..comes to mind.
    How do I deal with that. I have been searching for this answer with the Narcissis how to deal with videos but it’s still hard to jknow still, if I do or say nothing she will continue, and if I do mention that I know what she is doing she will derive a great deal of satisfaction because I have noticed. and if I say nothing she will continue to remove the hedge until is is completely gone?
    I thought of saying to her, “I have noticed you are taking the hedge away, I don’t mind, we could dreplace it with the fence I have on my other side, based on what that one cost one replacing the hedge should be around $14,000. How would she ract to that?
    She is since this thing started, hiding, in her house during the day (can she feel guilt)? And since she works on her landscape most hours of most days, she seems to be doing this work early, like before most people are up or late at night. Suits me fine as it gives me a bit of freedomn to not have to face her during the say.
    What would you do?

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