How Long Should You “Hold Back” Offers?

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February 10, 2014

Virtually every house listed for sale in Torontos’ central core these days comes with a designated offer date, or you could say that the listing has a “hold back” on offers.

What used to be a standard six or seven day hold-back is now anybody’s guess.

I’m not sure if it’s a “strategy” for some listing agents to buck the trend, or if it’s complete ignorance, but I’ve seen some crazy offer dates in the past few weeks, and it deserves a discussion…

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My question is: how long?

My question is not: why?

Sometimes, people either frustrated with the real estate market, out of touch with it, or both, will ask “why does every listing have a hold-back on offers?”

It’s a simple answer, isn’t it?

Do we really need to ask why?

Isn’t it rhetorical?

Like I said – asking “why” has to be based on ignorance, or frustration, since the answer is obvious: we’re in a red-hot real estate market, and this is the best way to maximize the sale price for a home.

A newspaper reporter asked me a couple weeks ago, “Why do they have to do this?”

She was frustrated by the listing of a house on Wolfrey in Riverdale, which was listed for $429K, and sold for well in excess of $500,000.  The house represented “entry level” for many buyers, but in the end, it proved to be anything but.

Buyers who thought they could never buy a house for $400,000 were looking at this home – priced at $429,900, and hoping, wishing, dreaming…..and waiting.

There is no “hope” in real estate, but that doesn’t stop somebody from submitting an offer for $400,000, on a house listed at $429,900, with a hold-back on offers, that eventually sells for $507K.

“Why” we hold-back offers shouldn’t be a question.

Some people label the practice of pricing at $429,900, when the house is worth far more than that, “unfair.”  But consider that any house listed for sale in Toronto with an “offer date” essentially has a starting bid, not unlike Ebay, and that starting bid doesn’t reflect reality.

You don’t go on Ebay looking at a purse listed at $0.01, when it’s worth $800, thinking, “I bet I can get that purse for $0.01!”

In real estate, we can’t list a house for sale for $1.00, and expect people to find it.  Buyers looking at $600,000 houses in a given area will search between $500,000 – $700,000, or according to some other parameters.  They will NEVER look for houses priced at $1.00, and this is why we listing agents don’t price houses as such.

You can say that it’s “unfair” to price a $750,000 house at $679,900, and then “hold back” offers, but that $679,900 price is a starting price.  Sure, we could have listed at $1.00, just like the purse on Ebay, but nobody will see the listing at $1.00.

Make sense?

So with the “why” out of the way, let’s move on to what I really wanted to talk about today: how long?

How long do you hold back offers in today’s market?

You’re reading this on Monday, February 10th, 2014.  Say a listing comes out onto the market today, for a 3-bed, 3-bath, semi-detached house on Montgomery Avenue in the Yonge/Eglinton neighbourhood, for $879,900.  When do you think the sellers will review offers?

I’d hazard a guess that if it’s not Monday, February 17th, 2014, it would be Tuesday, February 18th.

Most offer dates are about 6-8 days after the listing comes out, and this is not some sort of coincidence.

It’s a time-tested technique, that leaves just enough time for the market to respond to the listing, and yet put the pressure on the buyer to move quickly.

Then again, “quickly” could mean something entirely different from one buyer to the next.

In today’s fast-paced market, to suggest that making a decision in seven days is “quick” might seem like a farce to some buyers.  Today’s buyer often gets a new listing emailed to him or her the very day it comes out, and then goes to see it that evening.  That buyer might say, “Okay, we’re interested” that same evening, and thus “quick” could mean only eight hours after the listing hits the market.

Waiting around for a full week can seem like slow torture to many eager buyers, but that’s just the way things work in today’s industry.

If the seller of a home, listed on Monday, February 10th, were to review offers on Thursday, February 13th, that would likely be far too quick, and wouldn’t allow for the property to be properly exposed to the market and its buyers.

Typically, you want to allow for a full weekend to pass, thus exposing the home via the public open house, and giving buyers six or seven weeknights to make an appointment to see the home, as well as go back for a second viewing, perhaps with a home inspector, family member, etc.

But what about the alternative?

We’re talking about a scenario when offers are reviewed to quickly, but what about when offers are held-back for too long?

I was in a 5-plex in the west end last weekend, where the offer date was fifteen days after the listing hit the market.

Investment properties are an entirely different animal, so perhaps the comparison isn’t fair.  Here was a case of the seller and listing agent wanting to reap the possible rewards of multiple bidders coming to the table at the same time, just like with residential properties, but also wanting to expose the property to the market for a much longer duration.

Residential properties are often bought with emotion, and buyers are antsy, eager, and looking at listings each and every day.  Investment properties and commercial properties are bought strictly based on numbers and finances, and not every potential buyer is “in the market” when that listing hits the market.

I think it’s fair to say that a fifteen day hold-back on offers would be nuts for a single-family home, but might make sense for a 5-plex.

So then…..what do you make of this listing:

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Sorry for all the black-outs, but you know the rules I have to abide by…

Here we have a listing, which came out on February 7th, 2014.

And as you can see in the broker’s notes – they’re reviewing offers on March 4th, 2014.

So I have a question: what planet do you think this listing agent lives on?

You’re probably thinking “Mars,” but that’s because Mars is the most common planet that comes to people’s minds. I don’t know if it’s due to the famous book by John Gray, “Men are from Mars, women are from Venus,” or if it’s the Red Hot Chili Peppers’ Stadium Arcadium album, that featured discs called “Mars” and “Venus.”

In any event, the listing agent from this property is not from planet earth, and is likely new to the business, has no clue what he or she is doing, or both.

Selling real estate is sooooo easy, right?

Yep – just list that property – that simple, standard condo (with no photos on MLS, and restrictions on showings due to the tenant), on February 7th, and then hold an “auction” on March 4th.

There are three things you’ll need on March 4th:

1) Security Guards – to hold back the crowds of people, and screaming fans.
2) Dump Truck – to haul away all the money you’ll be getting for that sought-after property
3) Champagne – to raise a toast to the genius decision to hold back offers on a condo for twenty-five days.

I would estimate that in today’s market, about 98% of condominium listings do NOT have a hold-back on offers.  The only listings that do are either really, really special properties, or properties listed by people from other planets.

Holding back offers on a condo is one thing, but holding back offers for twenty five days is just stupid.

Why, you ask?

Well, too long a hold-back causes three issues:

1) Fear of “Games.”  Today’s buyers are very savvy, and often have bid on several other houses before.  They know the market, they know the system, and because of how hot and often how frustrating the market can be, they’re always on the lookout for red flags.  If a ‘normal’ house came onto the market with a twenty-five day hold-back on offers, most buyers would smell something foul, and question the listing, if not disregard it altogether.

2) Cooling off.  Much of Toronto’s real estate is bought with emotion, and while I wouldn’t want to use the world “impulse,” I would say that many buyers might act differently if a property was on the market for 75 days, and they had ample time to think things through.  By leaving too much time in between the listing and the offer date, a seller risks that the buyer pool might cool off, as the initial excitement fades.

3) Other options.  Let’s face it – an active buyer is on high-alert at all times, and probably checks MLS several times per day.  Finding your “dream home” on Wednesday, and being forced to wait until next Monday to submit an offer, certainly leaves the door open to change your mind, or find another property you like more.  But if you TRIPLE that window in between the listing and offers, you simply triple the chance that a buyer will find other options.  And with a buyer being frustrated by the long hold-back, they might be looking for any reason to look at a different property regardless.

None of us really “like” the system we have in place, with listing properties, and holding-back offers.  But it’s what we have, and it’s what we’re going to continue using.

If you’re a frustrated buyer, just put the shoe on the other foot, and tell me for one second that you wouldn’t hold-back offers if YOU were a seller in today’s market.

We essentially have an auction system, that isn’t perfect.

But it is what it is, and as I tell any new client that calls or emails, looking to get into an entry-level Toronto house, “You’d be naive to think you won’t be in competition for a home at some point.”

Who knows; maybe the twenty-five day hold-back will scare off buyers, and the property won’t receive the attention it would have, could have, or should have.

Then again, that seller likely knows best, and I’m sure he or she would re-list……$30K higher…

Written By David Fleming

David Fleming is the author of Toronto Realty Blog, founded in 2007. He combined his passion for writing and real estate to create a space for honest information and two-way communication in a complex and dynamic market. David is a licensed Broker and the Broker of Record for Bosley – Toronto Realty Group

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8 Comments

  1. Kyle

    at 1:41 pm

    I guess there’s all sorts of factors that play into how long. Like the weather, if it’s a long weekend, if it’s a school holiday, what day of the week you want offer night to fall on (i hear some people don’t like Mondays, because they don’t feel it gives enough time to talk to a bank or arrange an inspection), whether other houses in the neighbourhood are also for sale and holding back offers (i’ve heard different views, on whether it is best to be the first house taking offers, or second), and obviously a feel for how much pent up demand there is and how long the sellers can endure having their place on the market for.

    A couple of things i’ve noticed and find interesting though is by late spring, holding back offers seems to lose its effectiveness. Not sure if the really hungry buyers have all bought by then, or whether buyers are starting to fatigue. Also some people are starting to time their Open houses, for weekends when a neighbourhood event or street festival is happening, like RAYS or the Polish Festival in Roncy, or the Cabbagetown Arts and Crafts Festival, etc. Who knows in today’s internet age, maybe this is all just over-thinking, or maybe it’s maximizing opportunites. Would be interesting to hear an agents take.

  2. Paul

    at 1:43 pm

    Without looking up the actual listing, this whole posting just screamed “905 realtor listing a property in 416”, right down to screwing the C/B out of 0.25% commission.

    And really, does anyone think that in this day and age that an offer will come complete with a non-certified cheque?!

    1. Mike James

      at 8:28 pm

      How is the c/b getting screwed? You think 2.25% isn’t enough for a few hours work?

  3. Paully

    at 3:39 pm

    Was there a hold-back on comments again today?

  4. Kyle

    at 4:12 pm

    Judging by the number of comments, listing with a hold back while the Olymipics are on, may result in disappointment.

  5. Sochichi Rodriguez

    at 1:12 am

    Sold let me get this script straight.

    Holding off 10 days is a thumbs up. 25 days and you need a shrink.

    Listing $50K below market value is a thumbs up. At market or slightly below and you’re onto stage 3 dementia.

    Holding back on freeholds is a thumbs up. Doing so on Condos suggests the childhood fall from the Big Wheel proved to be more serious than we first thought.

    Who knew there was such a fine line between real estate genius and insanity.

    Wonder if I can borrow that dump truck in bullet #2? A dent, the shovel will not make.

    1. Marina Vazzana

      at 3:54 pm

      This cracked me up lol

  6. frank le skank

    at 12:51 pm

    There are a lot of sale tactics used to maximize profits, as a consumer you should do your research before buying to avoid overpaying. Was the initial price on house on Wolfrey in Riverdale aligned with comparables in the neighborhood? Underpricing is done to instigate a bidding war and it usually maximizes price. Is it fair? Probably depends on which side of the fence you sit. If you’re a realtor making money you’ll say its fair, if you’re an unsuspecting consumer that fell for this trick you’ll think its unfair. At the end of the day as a consumer you need to be aware of this and make sure you do your homework and know how much you’re willing to pay for a house, and if you’re willing to overpay. People do buy residential real estate on emotion and in a rising market this can have devastating side effects.

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