This is a tragic tale, but only because those people who should have seen it coming, did not.
Those magic beans weren’t magic, and the carriage turned back into a pumpkin…
“Trump Tower Developer Suing 7 Disgruntled Investors To Close Deals They Now Regret”
By: Susan Pigg
The Toronto Star
Published: Monday, November 19th
Developers of Toronto’s Trump International Hotel & Tower have launched lawsuits against seven investors in an effort to force them to close on deals for condo-hotel suites some claim haven’t turned out to be the Hollywood gold buyers were expecting.
The legal move by Talon International Inc. comes at the same time that a London, Ont. doctor is seeking $750,000 in damages for “misrepresentation,” unless he can get back deposits on the hotel suite he bought in the ill-fated project back in 2009.
The court wrangling is just the latest round of problems to curse the celebrity hotel and condo project at Bay and Adelaide Sts.
Dozens of purchasers of suites in the 65-storey luxury hotel are now trying to get deposits back and renege on final payments averaging over $500,000.
Other buyers, some too frightened of the legal ramifications to walk away from deals penned up to seven years ago, say they are finding themselves in a crippling Catch-22 — unable to sell the units or secure mortgages on balances due to Talon Nov. 29.
“One mortgage company asked me, ‘How could I give you a mortgage on a property that is losing money every single day?” said one devastated buyer, a blue-collar worker who borrowed the $175,000 down payment from his immigrant parents and owes $750,000 at month’s end.
“It’s very scary,” says the GTA resident, one of about a dozen investors who spoke to The Star on condition their names not be used. Most were caught up in the get-rich-quick mentality of Toronto’s booming condo market and intended to flip the units or use them to generate retirement income.
Talon has been facing an escalating buyer revolt since last February as the glitzy Trump Hotel set to open and buyers found out that maintenance fees, property taxes and other incidentals on the project’s 276 hotel-condo units had skyrocketed from Talon’s earlier projections.
Emergency doctor Ganesh Ram alleges in his lawsuit that his costs jumped 40 per cent, with property taxes alone (the hotel-condos are considered commercial rather than residential units) now at $30,000 a year. While revenues from the hotel were meant to more than offset those kind of costs, buyers say they’ve been told hotel occupancy is running anywhere from 10 to 50 per cent and room rates are averaging about $300 per night instead of the $600 and up Talon had originally touted.
Based on the startling new numbers, buyers have alerted Talon they plan to rescind their deals, citing the fee hikes as a “material change” under the Condominium Act. Talon’s lawsuits, filed in Newmarket’s Ontario Superior Court of Justice in the summer, are seeking a declaration from the court that they aren’t a material change and that deals must stand. Talon refused to discuss details of the lawsuits. None of the buyers named in the suits would speak publicly.
“Purchasers that entered into agreements of purchase and sale with Talon are not amateurs. The purchasers made these commercial investments in the light of day and presumably on the advice of their legal counsel,” Talon told The Star in an email through its public relations firm.
“We have full confidence in the court’s wisdom to interpret and enforce the terms and conditions of the agreements that were entered into by those few purchasers which have chosen to resile from their binding obligations to Talon.”
While domestic and international investors have largely fuelled the condo boom since 2007 — buying up units and renting them out — the Talon/Trump project is very different. It has 379 suites, some 118 of them residential condos, the other 261 being hotel-condos that go into a rental pool.
Owners of those hotel suites pay commercial, rather than residential taxes, “common element” and other fees, including $87 every night there is someone sleeping in their bed. According to financial estimates in online promotional material, graced by The Donald’s smiling face, those costs would be more than offset by Trump Tower’s revenues.
Toronto lawyer Javad Heydary has been advising eight Korean purchasers and has been contacted by representatives of more than 40 other buyers seeking to rescind offers. He’s had a team of eight lawyers examining the deals. What Heydary found came as a shock, especially to some buyers who readily admit they were so blinded by the flash and cash of Donald Trump that they didn’t do proper due diligence: Buyers weren’t purchasing so much a condo as a share in a high-end hotel that, so far at least, is losing money.
Some buyers are sophisticated investors. But many others are hard-working immigrants who just want their life savings back — 20 per cent deposits now sitting in trust and due to be released to Talon on closing.
“Everybody on their own or through advisors — financial advisors, real estate brokers or pension administrators — heard about this opportunity and was attracted because of the name Trump,” says Heydary.
“They were not only buying into what they thought was a good investment, they were buying a piece of Hollywood.”
Wow, where do we begin?
How about with this: “…said a blue-collar worker who borrowed the $175,000 down payment from his immigrant parents and owes $750,000 at month’s end.”
Maybe that’s the problem.
Even if this story has been exaggerated (they use ‘immigrant parents’ as if to say that all immigrants are poor…), I still think it demonstrates that not everybody should be speculating on real estate. Whatever happened to that old adage, “Only risk what you’re willing to lose?”
In this case, the buyer didn’t just risk the $175,000 that he borrowed in the first place. He also risked coming up with another $750,000 to close the deal for a condo that might be worth less than what he contracted to pay for it several years ago.
Last year around this time, I received a phone call from a Chicago lawyer/investor who had been approached with a business proposition.
Somebody was indebted to the Chicago lawyer and his partners for about $1,000,000, and the debtor offered up his stake in a unit at Toronto’s Trump Towers as repayment. The debtor had contracted to purchase a $5,000,000 unit and had made a $500,000 deposit, and the debtor suggested that the unit itself had appreciated at least $1,500,000. So the debtor was trying to offer up the $2,000,000 ($500K deposit + $1.5M paper gain) as repayment for the $1,000,000 debt.
The problem with this, of course, is that you had to justify that $6,500,000 valuation for the property in order for this transaction to make sense.
I contacted some salespeople at Trump and asked what current sale prices were like. They had units that were being offered at up to $1,900 per square foot, if you can believe it!
The debtor’s unit was purchased in pre-construction for around $5,000,000, with a 10% deposit (thus the $500,000), but I had a hard time trying to justify that prices had risen to $6,500,000 for the unit as the debtor suggested.
As much as I would have loved to get my hands on a $6,500,000 listing, I figured that I’d never be able to sell it, I’d spend all my time on it, and to be quite honest – that’s not my bread and butter. I’ll let the diamond-studded-Realtors to the “upper crust” handle those. And more importantly, I didn’t see the value, and I had to be honest with the potential client.
I told the Chicago investor that I’d rather have a $1,000,000 account receivable than a $500,000 deposit on a $5,000,000 condo that may or may not be worth more than the original $5,000,000 purchase price. In fact, with $4,500,000 owing over the next two years, that sounds more like a liability than an investment to me.
He agreed.
Hindsight is 20/20, and the article in Monday’s Toronto Star may show that I was “right,” but I honestly don’t think any rational person could have answered otherwise. Did people REALLY think that $1,900 per square foot was sustainable? Where were prices going? $2,000 per square foot? Did investors expect to sell their condos at $2,300 per square? The way this hotel/condo is set up sounds like these units are going to bleed people dry until they walk away, or declare bankruptcy like Donald Trump has done three times…
The tragedy here is that the article only tells the story of seven investors, when I’m sure there were many more that lost their shirts. Maybe some of the units were bought by billionaires who don’t care about losing a couple million, but many of the buyers were average folks, just like you and me.
And where is Donald Trump in all this? He’s too busy claiming that the American election was “not democracy,” even though by the very definition of the word “democracy,” it was exactly that. He’s too busy suggesting that Americans “storm Washington and take back the country,” which is exactly what rebels and dictators say before a war breaks out. What a class act. And to think – this is the mentality of many of today’s “leaders” down south.
In a completely unrelated story, it’s never been a better time to wear the red maple leaf…
Alex
at 2:12 am
I was talking about this so much in a last year that I can not do it anymore… I’ll just say that greedy and dumb must pay, and hopefully they learn a lesson!
Jack
at 11:33 am
@Alex, I agree, but I feel like it’s entirely a different world when you’re dealing with these types of buyers. Personally, I’d be embarrassed to say that I spent that much money on a house or a condo. I’m sure there’s better things to do with your money that invest in places like the Trump Tower and pre-construction developments… when will people learn?
Alex
at 3:43 pm
Never…. greed and stupidity are evil… I want to cry when I see someone in their late 20s with a $50k/year job making down payments with borrowed money on several pre-construction condos in hopes to make a lot of easy $$$ and buy new shoes:-) I want to cry even more when I see realtors with 2-3 months experience trying to convince these late 20 yo’s to buy these pre-construction condos…
Key is to play the game that you can afford.
George
at 3:35 am
Reckless investing. If you put all of your eggs into one basket then you better know for sure that that basket doesn’t have any holes in it. An unfinished development is a basket with many potential holes.
lui
at 9:02 am
doesnt help with the falling glass either…..
Geoff
at 10:46 am
I completely agree; if you are dumb enough to invest money you don’t have, in something you don’t understand, in the vague pursuit of greed, and it doesn’t work out for you – am I supposed to have sympathy for you? If I borrowed $100 grand and put it all in one mining stock, and I lose all my money… is that your fault? No and no.
Buffet said it a long time ago: I don’t invest in things I don’t understand. Sound advice.
Alex
at 3:44 pm
well said
Kyle
at 11:05 am
This is like 1 King West Part Duhhhhhhhhh.
Chuck
at 2:23 pm
There’s a big difference between gambling and investing.
Toto
at 10:37 am
The difference being you get free drinks while gambling and free lunches when investing. Otherwise, pretty much the same.
Floom
at 2:52 pm
FYI folks, if you’re an average joe and a broker/salesperson for a 5-star project is convincng you to cash in your RSPs and borrow from your relatives…its because the rich guys -presumably the ‘smart money’ – have already taken a pass
Horrido
at 2:03 pm
“Most were caught up in the get-rich-quick mentality of Toronto’s booming condo market and intended to flip the units or use them to generate retirement income.”
The operative words are: “Most were caught up…”
That says it all. If you’re really that stupid, why should anyone care? Whose fault is it but your own?